physixfan      2024-11-09     2024-11-09 94 Comments

American Express Platinum Card for Schwab Review

2024.11 Update: The new welcome offer is 125k! In terms of points alone, this is the highest welcome offer ever offered for this card.

2023.8 Update: The 100k welcome offer is expired. The current offer is 80k.

2022.3 Update: The +10x on restaurant and shop small part of welcome offer is expired. The current offer is 100k.

Application Link

• AmEx Platinum Card for Schwab. You need to have a Charles Schwab Brokerage Account in order to apply for this card.

Benefits

1. 125k offer: Earn 125,000 Membership Rewards (MR) points after spending $8,000 in first 6 months. In terms of points alone, this is the highest welcome offer ever offered for this card.
2. We estimate that Membership Rewards (MR) are worth about 1.6 cents/point, see below for a brief introduction. So the 125k welcome offer is worth about $2,000!
3. [Schwab version only] You can cash out your MR points into your Schwab brokerage account at a fixed ratio 1.1 cents/point! This the only card that can redeem your MR points towards cash in a decent ratio. You won’t receive tax forms for cashing out MR in this way. (The rate was 1.25 cents/point before 2021.9.)
4. [Schwab version only] Schwab Appreciation Bonus: get $100 every year if you have $250k or more in Schwab; or get $200 every year if you have $1M or more in Schwab. This requirement is really high, so it’s only useful if you already have such an amount of assets invested somewhere.
5. Earn 5x MR points for flights booked directly with airlines, on up to $500k. Earn 5x MR points for flights and prepaid hotels booked with AmEx Travel. Earn 1x MR points per $1 spent on all other purchases.
6. This card offers varies credits to cover some expenses, see details in the next section.
7. Complimentary access to the following airport lounges:
   • Priority Pass Select (PPS), you need to enroll it by yourself, and then a Priority Pass Select card will be mailed to you, free for up to 2 companions, note that AmEx issued PPS cards no longer give restaurant credit (they can only be used in PPS airport lounges);
   • Centurion Lounges. Guest access costs $50 per person. Complimentary guest access for up to two guests per visit after spending $75,000 USD between January 1, 2022 and December 31, 2022 and in each calendar year thereafter.
   • The International American Express Lounges, companion policies vary by location, but at least 1 companion for free;
   • Escape Lounges, free for up to 2 companions;
   • Delta Sky Clubs, you need a Delta boarding pass on the same day, $29 per companion. [2023.9 Update] Effective 2/1/25, card members of this card will receive 6 Visits per year to the Delta Sky Club; to earn an unlimited number of Visits each year starting on 2/1/25, the total eligible purchases on the Card must equal $75,000 or more between 1/1/24 and 12/31/24, and each calendar year thereafter.
   • Plaza Premium Lounges, free for up to 2 companions;
   • Airspace Lounges, free for up to 2 companions.
8. Fine Hotels & Resorts (FHR): if you book hotels through FHR, you can enjoy the benefits of elite members; such as room upgrades, free Wi-Fi, free breakfast, etc. The benefits vary by hotels.
9. Complimentary Marriott Bonvoy Gold Status. Use this link to activate.
10. Complimentary Hilton Gold Status. Use this link to activate.
11. Complimentary membership for Avis, Hertz, and National membership. Use this link to activate.
12. Platinum Card Concierge service: for the busy or even lazy, you can use this service to book hotels or reserve restaurants and so on, the service is said to be very, very good.
13. $800 Cell phone protection: get up to $800 per claim and 2 claims per year in cell phone protection against covered theft or damage for phones listed on your monthly cell phone bill when you pay it with your eligible credit card. Deductible $50.
14. With this credit card, you can get access to Amex Offers, which often offers very good discounts at some stores. In the past we have seen offers like: Spend $15 or more and get $5 back at Walmart; Spend $75 or more and get $25 back on Amazon.com.
15. Refer a friend: You can earn 15,000 bonus MR points for every approved account you refer, up to 55,000 MR points per calendar year.
16. This card is relatively easy to get approved for because it is a Charge Card, not a Credit Card. Charge card means that you don’t have the option to pay only minimum payment, you have to pay your balance in full on the due dates. Note that Charge Card applications will also result in a Hard Pull, just like Credit Card applications.
17. Charge Cards have no pre-set spending limit.
18. No foreign transaction fee.

Varies Credits

This card has varies credits to cover some expenses. They are:

1. [$200 airline fee credit] Get up to $200 credit for airline incidental charges such as checked bags per calendar year. Airline ticket itself is not eligible. Because this benefit resets according to calendar year instead of when you opened the card, you can actually get airline fee credit TWICE before the second annual fee posts! Note that this benefit is not automatically enrolled, you need to enroll and specify an airline by clicking here.
2. [$200 FHR/THC hotel credit] Get up to $200 credit on prepaid Fine Hotels Resorts (FHR) or The Hotel Collection (THC) bookings per calendar year. Bookings of THC require a minimum stay of 2 consecutive nights. Because this benefit resets according to calendar year instead of when you opened the card, you can actually get airline fee credit TWICE before the second annual fee posts!
3. [$200 Uber credit] Get $15 Uber credit per month except Dec, and $35 in December. That’s $200 per year. The unused credits will expire every month.
4. [$100 Saks credit] Get up to $50 in statement credits on Saks Fifth Avenue from January through June, and up to $50 from July through December. Both online and in store will work. No minimum purchase required. Enrollment required.
5. [Complementary Walmart+ membership] Pay your Walmart+ membership with your AmEx Platinum card, and you will get full credit back ($12.95/month).
6. [$100 Global Entry credit] Get $100 credit for Global Entry or $85 credit for TSA Precheck application fee.
7. [$179 Clear credit]. It’s the same amount as the Clear annual membership fee. It’s useful if you fly a lot, but the value is not much.
8. [$240 Digital Entertainment credit]. Get up to $20 per month, only works at: Hulu, Disney+, and several other specific merchants. The value is essentially 0.
9. [$300 Equinox credit]. Get up to $300 per year on Equinox membership fees. The value is essentially 0.

Disadvantages

1. $695 annual fee, NOT waived for the first year. Note that annual fee does not count towards the minimum spending requirement (and this is true for all credit cards)! 

Authorized Users

There are two kinds of Authorized User (AU) cards: platinum AU card, and “silver” AU card. AU cards do not have separate credits.

1. Platinum AU cards have annual fee: $195 per card. Platinum AU card holders have separated PPS card, have access to all the airport lounges mentioned above, get complimentary hotel status, and can use FHR benefits.
2. “Silver” AU cards have no annual fee, but there’s no additional benefits.

Introduction to MR Points

• You can earn MR points with AmEx ED, AmEx EDP, AmEx Green, AmEx Gold, AmEx Platinum, AmEx Platinum for Schwab, AmEx Platinum for Morgan Stanley, AmEx Blue Business Plus, AmEx Business Green, AmEx Business Gold, AmEx Business Platinum, etc.
• The MR points you earn on different MR cards will automatically go to the same MR account.
• MR points never expire. You will not lose the MR points on one card if you close the account, but you will lose all of the MR points if you close all of the MR cards. In order to avoid losing your MR points, we recommend to keep the no annual fee AmEx ED.
• If you have any of the MR cards, MR points can be transferred to some airline miles. One of the most common and best way to use MR points is to 1:1 transfer them to All Nippon Airways (ANA, NH) miles (Star Alliance). Other good options are: Air Canada (AC) (Star Alliance), Delta Air Lines (DL) (SkyTeam), British Airways (BA) (Oneworld), Asia Miles (Oneworld), Singapore Airlines (SQ) (Star Alliance), Flying Blue (SkyTeam), Virgin Atlantic (VS) (Non-alliance), etc. If you use MR in this way, the value is about 1.6 cents/point.
• If you have any of the MR cards, you can redeem your MR points at a fixed rate about 1 cent/point towards air tickets on AmEx travel portal.
• If you have AmEx Platinum for Schwab, you can redeem your MR points at a fixed rate 1.1 cents/point towards cash. If you don't want to spend time studying airline miles, this is a pretty good way to cash out the points. If you don't have this card, you can only redeem your MR points at a fixed rate 0.6 cents/point towards cash.
• In summary, we estimate that MR points are worth about 1.6 cents/point.
• For more information about MR points, see Maximize the Credit Card Points Values (overview), and Introduction to MR: How to Earn and Introduction to MR: How to Use (very detailed).

Recommended Application Time

1. [Once per lifetime language] You can only get the welcome bonus once in a lifetime, so be sure to apply when the historical highest offer appears.
2. [New] [Platinum flavors language] Different flavors of AmEx Platinum cards now affect each other in terms of welcome offers. You can only get one welcome offer among them.
3. [New] [Family language] AmEx begins to add family language: higher annual fees cards will affect the welcome offers on lower annual fee ones in the same family series. Specifically, having held Platinum makes you ineligible for the welcome offer of Gold. So if you want both, you should apply for Gold first.
4. AmEx doesn’t care about the number of hard pulls.
5. You can try to apply for it when you have a credit history of 6 months.
6. You must wait at least 90 days between the application for different flavors of AmEx Platinum cards, otherwise the application will be cancelled.

Summary

This card is quite special for the value of MR points. When you have this card, you can redeem your MR points to cash at a ratio 1:1.1! For those who don’t want to spend a lot of time studying airline miles, this redemption option is worth considering.

The 100k+10x welcome offer is quite good.

You can earn 5x MR points on air tickets with this card, and it is the best earning rate across all cards. Also this card now comes with a trip delay insurance which can be triggered by a 6+hrs delay, so it has become the best card to buy airline tickets. There are also a lot of other benefits such as more lounge access than other premium cards, the FHR, etc. If you can take advantage of these benefits, this card may be a keeper.

The annual fee is now increased to $695, and at the same time there are even more credits. People joke about it and call it a “coupon book card”. These credits can somehow offset part of the annual fee: the $200 air incidental credit can be used by some techniques, so we value it at 70% of its face value and that’s about $140; the $200 FHR/THC hotel credit can be useful if you find some hotels with a cheaper price, so we value it at 70% of its face value and that’s about $140; the $200 Uber credit is distributed and expires every month, so we also use 70% of its face value which is about $140; the $100 Saks credit is worth about $70 if also valued at 70% face value. The value of the other credits are basically 0. Considering the annual fee is so high now, it’s hard to get positive value if you don’t go out and travel a lot.

If one day you don’t want to keep this card any more, but still want your remaining MR points, you can apply for the AmEx EveryDay (ED) (no annual fee) to keep the MR points and use them in the future.

To Do List After You Get The Card

1. Enroll in Airline Incidental Fee Credit benefit and choose a carrier. You must enroll and choose a carrier prior to making a reimbursable purchase.
2. Add your card to Uber or UberEats.
3. Enroll in Saks Credit benefit.
4. Enroll in Priority Pass Select (PPS) lounge benefit.
5. Enroll in Marriott Bonvoy Gold status.
6. Enroll in Hilton Gold status.
7. Enroll for Avis, Hertz and NationalCar Rental status privileges.
8. Enroll in Walmart+ membership.
9. Apply for Global Entry ($100 reimbursement) or TSA PreCheck ($85 reimbursement).

Related Credit Cards

• AmEx Platinum regular version
• AmEx Platinum for Schwab (this post)
• AmEx Platinum for Morgan Stanley

See this post for the comparison of benefits.

Recommended Downgrade Options

• You can not downgrade this card to any card, so I suggest you close it when you don’t want to keep it any longer.

After Applying

• Click here to check AmEx application status.
• AmEx reconsideration backdoor number: 877-399-3083. The “real” backdoor number of Amex is well protected. Different from Chase, the representatives from this AmEx reconsideration backdoor number only have the right to help you submit requests.

Historical Offers Chart

Application Link

• AmEx Platinum Card for Schwab. You need to have a Charles Schwab Brokerage Account in order to apply for this card.

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